. >> good to have you with us. you say, when you see this video, we'll show it again, it is more than just the mother. you see something much larger than just the mother's actions or inaction. >> i think this really forces us to look in the mirror, all of us. if this was an isolated incident, that's one thing. but i think we all have to face the fact when it's rambo or straw dogs, we have a part of us in our culture that cheers on when somebody quote/unquote, stands up for themselves and throws a punch. it's wherever. it's not just these two girls and this mother. >> when you talk about rambo and that, that's fiction. this is the real deal. and some may think you're letting the mother off the hook a little too much there. she said she was going there because if she truly had her daughter's well-being in mind, because of a previous head injury, she wouldn't let her fight at all. >> that's absolutely true. i'm not excusing anybody. this is uncivilized behavior. it makes no sense to say i'm protecting my daughter's he